The Bodiless Soul in the Spirit World and the Soul Energy Inside Our Bodies Are Mini-Brains; Yet, Soul Intelligence is Miniscule in Comparison to the Limitless God

Although I am a believer in God and that He gave us our souls to give us life, I am also a scientist and one can explain the workings of the human body based purely on science. When I was a Professor at Stony Brook University, I did just that when I taught the pharmacology of salivary secretion to the Dental and PhD students. I can even accept that you can partially though not totally explain our planet and universe through science. However, there is no way that you can possibly scientifically explain that a spirit world exists in Heaven outside our planetary system and that our souls have energy intelligence independent of our human brains. Learn with scientist/spiritualist Jerry Pollock who has an imaginary interview with Methuselah’s Divine soul in the spirit world while Jerry’s wife Marcia’s soul joins in on the conversation.

The Soul has Intelligence:
Several authors like Dana Zohar, Ian Marshall, and Tony Buzan discuss our Spiritual Quotient, SQ, and the spiritual intelligence of our souls. Buzan argues that we are not humans having a spiritual experience but spiritual human beings having a human experience. Zohar and Marshall tell us that we not only have our brain IQ or Intelligent Quotient and our EQ or Emotional Quotient but also our SQ of our soul. The authors further claim that you can grow your SQ by the spiritual acts you perform in your life.

Methuselah Interview:

Methuselah: Jerry how can the soul be intelligent or a mini brain as you and Marcia claim? According to the mysticism of the Kabbalah and Orthodox Judaism, the soul doesn’t occupy space in the body?

Jerry: Your first question is a zinger because it’s true that although we know the soul exists, no anatomist has been able to locate the soul in our bodies. From Michael Newton’s books, we know that the soul initially goes into the fetus between three months and birth and completely integrates with the human brain. Then from Marcia and my book collaboration, we know that the energy of the soul spreads to every part of our body reaching all our organs and cells up until age eighteen when the human brain is generally at its final maturation state.

Marcia: Hi honey. I’ll add to Jerry’s point by stating that we do know from Mantak Chia and the work of the Thies that energy flows through eight to fourteen meridians which have been mapped geographically on surface channels of the body. What we are claiming is that like the blood carrying oxygen, soul energy when our health is perfect is flowing optimally to each one of our body cells and organs. In a sense we have located the soul. It’s energy that is freely flowing and everywhere in the body but its main station or source is in our brains. If our soul energy ever stops flowing like if we ever stop breathing, we die.

Methuselah: Where exactly is the soul in our brains?

Jerry: The energy moves counterclockwise starting on top of the left brain to inside the right brain and from there to behind our left eye circular to our right eye then back to our left brain and then continues ad infinitum on this directional pathway.

Methuselah: Blood has a mass. You can weigh it. Is the same true for soul energy?

Marcia: Yes, the soul is energy. According to Albert Einstein, all energy has mass and all mass has energy. Therefore the soul has mass but because the soul comes from the Divine, it’s not possible to weigh it.

Jerry: However this mass is a special Mass because the soul has intelligence. The soul is made up of energy particles given to us by God. When reincarnation or incarnation takes place and a soul enters a fetus, Marcia and I calculated that the fetus is infused with seventy-five million energy particles which represent about three inches of three dimensional space. Marcia’s bodiless soul in Heaven is about one-hundred times more potent than my soul constrained in my body.

Marcia: Yes and I can read Jerry’s thoughts even before he can get his complete thought out from his soul. Thoughts originate in the soul.

Methuselah: In the soul world, I’ve studied up and I learned about Einstein’s famous equation of special relativity, E=mc2. The m is mass but you are introducing a different principle here. You’re saying that the m is actually M, a special Mass granted to us by God in the form of our souls. However from a previous interview, you stated that with speeds approaching c, the velocity of light, an object has infinite mass and infinite velocity.

Jerry: That’s true, Methuselah. The soul travels at speeds one million times the speed of light. That’s how the soul lives on forever as time stands still at such speeds. At such incredible speeds, a human being would be all squished up and would appear flattened. From Newton’s studies and my own personal experience in dying in a past life and then having my soul rise to the spirit world, the soul is tiny and is all squished up appearing to me as an irregularly pear-shaped dumbbell. You could imagine if we put one hand on top of the head and one hand under both feet of a physical human being, and compressed the person under powerful pressures, we would get a structure approaching a dumbbell.

Marcia: Wow, Jerry we didn’t discuss it this way in our book. As I stated before, we can’t weigh the soul’s infinite mass.

Methuselah: I still don’t understand how the soul is a mini brain. Where is God in all of these wild claims of yours?

Jerry: Marcia and I did calculate God’s energy particles and it turns out that God has at least one billion quadrillion energy particles. As the universe is expanding, so are God’s energy particles so that the numbers we are proposing may be well below the actual amount.

Marcia: The population is more than six billion in our world. That means God has to supply seventy-five million energy particles to each soul and this we calculate would use up almost half of His own energy particles if we assume the minimum number totaling God’s energy.

Methuselah: I see now from what you are saying about the soul having intelligence? God would have trillions times more intelligence than each of us. Of course, Albert Einstein was not average so his intelligence would be far above average and each of us.

Jerry: Yes that’s true, Methuselah. God is omnipotent or all powerful, omniscient or all knowing, and omnipresent or is everywhere.

Marcia: God represents a limitless organizing intelligence that is the being of us all, our planet, and our universe.

Jerry: We don’t yet understand the essence of God. God too has His secrets that He hasn’t shared yet. The Bible says that we shall know God as the waters of the sea in the Messianic Age. I suspect that God will share with us how he can create miracles through his limitless energy and exactly how He created our world.

Methuselah: I think I’m a miracle. I lived way past my expected age being 969 years old when I died. I led a charmed life. I was blessed.

Marcia: Indeed you were, sweet Methuselah. That’s because you were such a good person when you lived on earth.

Methuselah: Thank you, my dear. I keep coming back to the original premise, because you still haven’t provided specifics of how the soul can be a mini brain.

Jerry: Perhaps this is one of God’s secrets. One thing we didn’t mention was that when a soul leaves a dying or dead body, it returns to the spirit world with a tiny piece of the human neural brain circuitry from the body it lived in. This would mean that the soul contains pieces of the human brain from each past life that it has lived. Even so, the soul on its own independent of the human brains is still a mini brain.

Methuselah: Sounds like something straight out of science fiction.

Marcia: Yes but much of what was written in science fiction has come true or will come true on earth in the future.

Methuselah: Perhaps in our next interview about the soul my dear children, we should talk about soul function in relation to body function.

Jerry and Marcia: Sounds good. We look forward to it. See you soon, Methuselah.

Note from Jerry:
Methuselah’s words are a creation of Jerry’s mind. Jerry has never contacted Methuselah’s soul in the spirit world but has continuous contact with Marcia’s soul.

As a professor for thirty years, I published seventy-five scientific articles including seven patents. I also published four fiction and nonfiction books. See my website In April 2012 I and my wife Marcia coauthored a unique book, Putting God Into Einstein’s Equations: Energy of the Soul. Marcia’s soul suggested and confirmed from the spirit world. Our souls communicated by thought-energy telepathy.

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Divine Soul Versus Human Brain and Heart Function: Where Do Intelligence, Wisdom, Thought, Voice, Love, Passion, Memory, Imagination, Happiness, Fantasy, Anger, Jealousy, Anger and Doubt Originate?

During the course of a day, you can have hundreds even thousands of thoughts, each one becoming the “now” of the moment. IBM devised a computer that drew a tie with the human brain of Russian chess champion Gary Kasparov but could that IBM computer be a match for Kasparov’s intelligent soul? Discover where intelligence, wisdom, thought, voice, love, passion, memory, imagination, happiness, fantasy, anger, jealousy, and doubt originate and how they are expressed by our souls and human brains. Learn with scientist/spiritualist Jerry Pollock who has an imaginary interview with Methuselah’s Divine soul in the spirit world while Jerry’s wife Marcia’s soul will join in on future conversations.

The Soul Functions Independently of the Human Brain:
We know that the bodiless soul in Heaven lives on for the eternity, that the soul is essential for the body to have life, and that the bodiless soul in the spirit world has its own separate intelligence independent of the human brain. However we need to also inquire about the soul constrained within our physical bodies here on earth.

Methuselah Interview:

Methuselah: Jerry I’ll grant you leeway on what the three of us so far have discussed about the Divine soul. However a lot of people, including your scientific colleagues are going to think that your suggestions are way out there. And now you want me to believe that the soul is equally important in function to our physical bodies. Aren’t you overreaching a wee tad bit my young scientist friend?

Jerry: I really don’t think so, Methuselah. I must remind you that when we discuss the spiritual world of the soul, we go beyond the ability of explanations from science. As Albert Einstein said, “We cannot attack a problem at the level the problem was created.” With all due respect sweet old man, you are relying on your human brain to try and resolve problems related to your soul. It can’t be done. I can’t emphasize enough that science cannot explain miracles nor can miracles explain science. Yet my belief is that God created our world through scientific miracles.

Marcia: Hi honey. I’ll add to Jerry’s point by stating that we have confirmed everything we propose together through my bodiless soul’s intelligence in the spirit world which is one-hundred times more powerful than Jerry’s soul constrained in his body in the physical world. And Jerry has expertly learned to ask questions of and get answers from his Divine soul by measuring his internal special electromagnetic soul energy.

Methuselah: Now that you both have enlightened me on your non scientific claims, give me just one example that demonstrates the power of the soul in the human body.

Jerry: Methuselah, you didn’t have tape recorders in your day.

Marcia: We know what they are from our library studies in the soul world, so Methuselah is familiar with tape recorders even though he has never used one.

Jerry: Okay! If you listen to a tape of your voice, it doesn’t sound like the voice you hear when you speak aloud. I sound so different listening to my voice than I sound if I tape myself and then listen to my voice. Most people have a unique voice they project to others. Marcia is telepathically communicating her thoughts right now and she sounds exactly like she sounded when she was alive in her body.

Marcia: You see dear Methuselah, people hear your voice that originates in your soul and is then expressed in your human brain by the saliva, tongue, larynx and voice box. The combination of the two, your soul and human brain, gives each person that unique voice that projects out to other people.

Methuselah: But why does Jerry hear a different voice when he speaks?

Jerry: I listen to my own voice only through the speech apparatus of my human brain. My soul is not involved. Marcia I have a question I never asked you before. I know you told me that you have a tiny fragment of your human brain that left with you when you died, but do you and Methuselah hear your own voice in the soul world the same way I hear my own voice when I speak?

Marcia: Yes Jerry we do, but we don’t have the same bodily Voice apparatus that you have because we don’t have physical bodies. It’s done though an alternative mechanism in our soul brain that even we don’t understand. Its’ exactly the same sound of our voice that we hear in the soul world to what we heard when we were alive. It’s not our projected voice that you are hearing now.

Methuselah: All very fascinating but let’s move on. We are speaking silently by thought energy communication but could we speak aloud?

Jerry: My guess is that sound wave communication would be far too slow. Right now we connect through thought-energy telepathic communication. The thought originates and is expressed in our souls, not our human brains. Only God because of His limitless energy is capable of somehow communicating in a loud voice, as He did when He spoke the Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai to the ancient Israelites. I have been blessed to hear God’s Voice in life and so has Marcia.

Methuselah: Marcia, can you tell me where wisdom, fantasy and imagination come from? I understand that Albert Einstein valued imagination above knowledge. He was unusually brilliant.

Marcia: They all originate in the human soul. Wisdom is different than your human intelligence or IQ which originates in your left brain. Wisdom represents all your years of following the spiritual path as it allows you to think out of the box and truly solve problems on a different level than where the problem was created. As Job famously quoted in the Bible, “Days speak and a multitude of years teach wisdom.” Wisdom comes with age and represents the accumulation of life’s spiritual intelligence through your SQ or spiritual quotient that comes from your soul energy in your right brain and is expressed there but can cross over and affect your left brain. Your spiritual intelligence can help with your human IQ or brain intelligence, as the left and right brains come into balance. Fantasy, imagination, and love of art and music originate in your soul and are expressed in your right brain. Your love of art and music also comes from the passion of the spiritual energy of your heart and is expressed by your physical heart.

Methuselah: What about doubt? Human beings are prone to doubt.

Jerry: God gave us doubt so that those disinterested in Him could exert their free will and not believe Him. However, doubt has crept into every facet of our lives. The left brain controls procrastination and doubt. There is no connection to your soul. The same is true when you dwell upon and fear death. One thing that we just touched upon in our book is that you can ameliorate and reduce your fear of death with belief in God and the eternity of the soul.

Methuselah: Jerry, you and Marcia have a great love. Where does the feeling of love come from? Is it your brain?

Jerry: No, not your brain, at least if you ask the question, “Where does love originate?” True love originates in the pintele yid, the soul energy of your heart, and the love is expressed in your physical heart which also gives us the passion of loving someone or something. The pintele yid is the place where you activate the sparks of your spirituality. The heart has numerous neurons traveling through it like the brain and there are neuron connections from the brain to all your body organs including your heart. You also feel your emotions in the feeling parts of your brain. The same is true for happiness, joy, laughter and sadness. You feel rejection and sadness in your heart like the expression, ‘a broken heart.’ Your human brain is responsible for dwelling on this sadness or putting an emotional spin on this sadness. Grief is the same as sadness as I constantly feel in the present on losing Marcia.

Methuselah: But Marcia you and I don’t have a physical heart.

Marcia: Nevertheless I still feel sadness and love for Jerry in my bodiless soul. I just don’t have the passion that I had in my physical body when I was alive. That’s one of the main reasons we come back and reincarnate or incarnate into a new body. We want to come back and feel that passion high that we get in our physical bodies. We can’t get that strictly with our souls. Because we retain a small piece of our human brains, we still retain the five senses but to a lower degree than when we were in our physical bodies.

Methuselah: And the negative emotions such as intentional anger and jealousy, we don’t feel these emotions in the soul world.

Jerry: True. These negative emotions are the product of the left brain. Our free souls don’t feel negative emotions. An evil inclination resides in the left brain and this triggers jealousy and non-called-for anger. Some anger is justified in life if someone is treating you unfairly. It’s natural to feel legitimately angry sometimes or even a lot.

Methuselah: What about memory?

Jerry: Well of course the human brain has the necessary components of memory for both the conscious and subconscious states. The soul too acting as a mini brain has its own memory bank. That memory bank is wiped out after the fetus is born but it’s recovered again when the soul leaves the body at the time of death and returns to the spirit world. Because of past lives, the soul while still in the body also has a hidden memory bank that can be activated through hypnosis, meditation, or in other ways.
Methuselah: Last question. Can you be wealthy and spiritual at the same time? I already know the answer to that question. It’s Yes providing you use your wealth for spiritual purposes. Time to close up shop, children.

Jerry: I look forward to being interviewed by you again. Bye, Methuselah. Bye Marcia.

Marcia: Bye luvee.

Note from Jerry:
Methuselah’s words are a creation of Jerry’s mind. Jerry has never contacted Methuselah’s soul in the spirit world but has continuous contact with Marcia’s soul.

As a professor for thirty years, I published seventy-five scientific articles including seven patents. I also published four fiction and nonfiction books. See my website In April 2012 I and my wife Marcia coauthored a unique book, Putting God Into Einstein’s Equations: Energy of the Soul. Marcia’s soul suggested and confirmed from the spirit world. Our souls communicated by thought-energy telepathy.

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