School Won’t Let Diabetic Child Inject Insulin?


– [Travis] I am incredibly troubled by this story, mainly because I am not a
big believer in at-home, it’s like you’re in the
lab mixing and matching and adding water.
– [Andrew] No and you could- to your insulin and that to
me is where the school has an incredible argument here.
– [Andrew] That’s troubling! They’re not comfortable
with diluted insulin, they don’t know what the
kid’s giving himself, then they’re liable.
– She could mix it wrong, she could contaminate it and-
– Yeah, Yeah exactly. – The sterility factor being done at home. – So is the school liable then? Because to me its a problem. – That is where I think the biggest issue in this case is. Is a school is now becoming a
medical authority in deciding whether or not the mixture is appropriate, whether is from pharmaceutical. And it’s a school. Their job is to
– [Nita] Well from a legal- to educate the children.
– perspective. It’s not to weigh-in and
this is where I think that. To your point, the school could be liable. – So that’s why the school said look until we get this figured out. – Right. – It’s best for you to not come to school. – And now what if you have
an eight year old who has a moment where he’s getting bullied and he gets really angry. And he grabs his medical bag and he starts taking the syringes out
to attack another child. There’s gotta be- There’s gotta be a part where legally when you sit at the table, a school and a family, that you come out with both
sides being a little unhappy. That is law. Any given day in America we have 30 percent of our kids that need medical
intervention on a campus. 30 percent of those students. So to get into a fighting match when we have the techonlogy where you can put a monitor on a kid and you can have an auto-pump that actually delivers the insulin. Without even messing with needles anymore. This to me is an issue
with the health care. – There’s a part of
this that just medically doesn’t make sense. And so in this case I
actually find myself siding with the school because, there are enough medical questions for me, that I’m uncomfortable with it. And it seems to me as it
would be as simple as, a doctor coming in to
this little arbitration and saying “This is what the kid needs”, “This is what its gonna be”, – This is how its gonna be done. – and if the parent says “Well no I don’t wanna- that’s not what I wanna use on my kid”, I mean what happens legally next? Because the school to me I understand they don’t want a scenario where the mom is dictating what the child gets, the doctor should be the one doing that. So what is the solution
if a parent refuses to comply with, can I call it the medical standard? Because it’s not the standard
to be diluting stuff all- and just
– [All] No. coming in this-
– [Andrew] Preparing your own – [Lisa] Yeah.
insulin? – No. – So where does this end? – I think you’re absolutely right. I think in this case specifically, the mom has a control issue over this, and there’s like- now we’re kind of invested in the battle versus looking at the
best interest in the kid. And in this state Utah, is the state that this is happening in, it requires two things. It requires a parent request, and a medical doctor that- basically endorses it.
– And that’s what’s missing here. The medical request. – Tough situation, I mean the mom has her hands full. Difficult disease for an eight-year-old. – What’s really interesting
as you’re watching this. Blood sugar control for
your child is so important, both acutely, if their blood sugar
is too low or too high that can cause acute effects – Yeah.
but chronically, if you’re not controlling
his blood sugars now they’re at a higher risk for
heart disease in the future. Blindness, kidney failure, and so these things really do matter. Lisa we love your opinions on the show, we really appreciate you
– Thank you. offering your advice. – Thank you.

21 Replies to “School Won’t Let Diabetic Child Inject Insulin?”

  1. I can understand with medical drugs but I just had it out with my school with Tylenol, my oldest called me asked me to bring her some Tylenol and I did,I took 10 into the school in a zip bag labeled, dated,with her name and mine have her 2 then had to fill out a form but they wouldn't take the baggie,it needed to be in a bottle, they're going to keep it in the office locked up any ways,but I went and bought a bottle then the next day my daughter went in and asked for Tylenol but they said no because I put aspirin on the form,so they couldn't give it to her,so she suffered all day with a headache that got worse throughout her day. I was soooo mad and I told them they really need to pick their battles better on things at the school because they have far more worse things going on in the school. I had to refill out the form needless to say and I'm still furious about this along with other stuff my girls have been called out on and pointed for……talk about taking parental rights away!!

  2. I don't understand the water mixing part,but that aside, the child should not have the insulin/needles on her. They should be held at the nurses office & the child should be able to go either get it administered by the nurse or administer it herself under the nurses supervision. I don't see the problem with that. Of course for the safety of the child, the protection of the school staff, the insulin should be in its original prescription bottle with the label. I've seen for myself a young student inject herself in the nurses office in my daughters elementary school years ago.

  3. It's not the school's decision, it's the school's insurance company making the call here. They are trying to protect themselves and the school and I fully support the insurance company on this one. Allowing students to inject themselves or administer their own medication of any kind on school grounds just opens up a can of worms from a legal perspective.

  4. I agree with The Drs that the kid should have an automatic insulin regulator so the kid and school doesn't have to worry for his/her safety and safety of other students. I wouldn't feel comfortable sending my 8 year old to school to mix his/her own insulin anyway. 😊✌👍

  5. The lady in the red shirt is CRAZY WACKO KOOKOO. Have you ever heard of any diabetic going crazy and stabbing people with their diabetic needle? Shes got the wrong color on because shes a dummiecrat. Omgoddddd JUST STOP TALKING.

  6. Loads of people dilute insulin. It isn't rare at all, especially for young kids on small doses. Many type 1s take pre-prepared prefilled syringes in little syringe cases everywhere with them, again, this is not unusual at all. Not everyone can wear pumps either, and some can't get them through insurance, so the guest 'expert' is showing her complete ignorance here.
    I think she has a very vivid imagination and watches too much tv if she thinks an 8 year old type 1 child is going to run amok threatening his dear friends with a syringe!! Diabetic kids are the bravest and most mature kids out there, they have to take on a lot of responsibility at a young age. Next time, get a proper guest expert who really knows about type 1 diabetes.

  7. The Doctors' guest expert: schools shouldn't have to deal with complicated cases and people too poor to afford insulin injection pumps.

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