Zen Den Health Talks Episode 9 – 21st Century Health Care


Here are your hosts, Mary and Michael. How you doing, Mary? So well, how are you? Good, good Mary. Michael here for WATD 95.9, Zen Den Health
Talks, another episode. Last week was great. We had multiple conversations going around
Zen Den services, a 21st century health show. That’s what we’re going to talk about today. We’re going to talk about why we’re the future
of healthcare. So many people who are leaders in the industry
have talked about the fact that we are the wave of the future, because we’re about preventative
care, we’re about cutting edge testing. We’re about looking at yourself, getting everything
assessed, so you know what you’re dealing with, and then looking at the solution. So you don’t get just a diagnosis, you actually
get solutions. Some solutions that are immediate, and some
solutions that will work over time. So it’s exciting, very, very exciting to share
all this information about the future of healthcare. Yes, and if you haven’t tuned in, or this
is the first time listening you can subscribe to the YouTube channel Zen Den Norwell and
watch any of the episodes. I wanted to remind Steve Hardy one of our
clients that came in and talked about men’s health, and we have all types of athletes,
and mothers, and grandfathers, and fathers, and student, high school athletes. So the Zen Den treats people of all ages,
and of all medical concerns or issues that they may have. But Steve came in, he looks amazing. He’s lost-
Lost over 70 pounds. … 70 pounds. He does pilates, he does clinic, he’s done
everything. And he’s in his 60s, maybe 63, and he really
wanted his … I think he wanted his daughter in Los Angeles to see the podcast. So Steve, it’s up on YouTube and check it
out and send it to her, and we’re happy to have you back in the future. So one of the things that … Also, we had
Jeremy Phillips last week, which was great to really talk about as he is an amazing athlete,
worked with Mary for a lifetime here. But one of the greatest stories of Zen Den
is Mary helping him win the gold medal over in the Ireland, Nationals. And so he’s just a great Zen Den story and
success story and- He is, and my favorite part of that story
is at 24 he was talking to the head coach of Ireland’s track and field team and the
coach was like, “So Jeremy what are your injuries?” And Jeremy was taken aback. He was like, “I don’t have any.” And he goes, “Come on dude you have injuries. Every runner has injuries.” And he goes, “No, I have, Mary.” That was amazing. That was great, yes. And he’s looking forward to trying to compete
in the Olympics. So that’s very exciting, and we’re very happy
to have him part of the Zen Den community and we’re looking forward to helping him any
which way we can. Every single client that we see, has a story,
a pre-story really of their life up until the time that they come to us. And today we had a four year old little boy
who is seeing us for some neurological stuff that he got after having a staph infection. We had a 23 year old young girl who has severe
pain, and I looked at her and I said, I just need to know what happened to you. And she told me the story about how she was
raped. And it was, I know it’s hard to hear, it’s
really hard to hear, but stuff happens to people, and they walk in stuck in their history
and to be able to then know that we also, not only are we healing her body, we have
to heal her soul and her heart and we do that at Zen Den. So the next time she comes in, she’s going
to do a guided meditation. Sure. So, there’s a lot to talk about and a lot
of those things you just said, I’ll circle back in with you. But the call in number for the show is 781-837-4900. And if you want to call in and ask a question
regarding anything or any services at the Zen Den feel free to call in. And also, at some point throughout the show,
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Yeah, we’re going to do that by text. Okay, text 781-837-4900. So keep that if you get a chance to call in
and talk to Michael and Mary, feel free to do so. So, one of the things we’re starting off with
it’s a 21st century health and Mary has always been so in-tuned with the human body, the
health, the athletes as an athletic trainer, as a Reiki, as a pilates instructor, as a
neurological studier and she’s now created a neurological methodology, physical therapy,
which is very unique and is perfect timing and has been validated by some of the greats
in the industry. So and not only has it been validated by some
of the great people in the industry, like Linda Shelton … Hi, Linda in case you listening. We love you, out in LA. She is the godmother of fitness. Yeah. She is the godmother of fitness. In the 80s she certified me with my first
fitness certification out in LA. And she has been somewhere in my periphery
for all these years and then to be reunited with her to create the education, the first
education manual for neural effects was, it was one of the hardest projects I’ve ever
had to do. Because I had to pull everything from my brain
and- The deep abyss. Yeah. I know there was [crosstalk 00:06:33] in there
somewhere, yeah. But she was the one who helped to get it down
on paper, and to organize it, and to ask questions around it. Yeah. And the conversation you had with her the
other day was shocking to me that she would say something so wonderful about the education. It was great to hear too and she was inducted
in the national fitness Hall of Fame. She’s the country’s leading experts in fitness
and health. So anyways, that was great to speak with her. So-
Yeah, but what did she say? She just said that what we’re doing at Zen
Den is so unique, and so special and- The manual. And the perfect timing, and that it’s one
of the best pieces of work that she’s ever been part of with you and her and-
That was stunning to me to hear that. And so it warmed, it really touched me. But she also said back to the neural, back
to the perfect timing, back to the … Well, we started off with the 21st century health
show and why Zen Den is such the future of health. But she said that everything right now is
neuro, neurological based, there’s so many neurodegenerative diseases. And if you look at the social media, you look
at health talks in the world, that’s the topic. And somehow we just happened to two and a
half years ago start this business together. And we’ve created a very unique neurological
methodology of physical therapy that is extremely successful. And we get to watch it unfold every day. Every single day. And we look forward to watching it unfold
as we grow the business and take this business to the next level. So, as I was saying was that the 21st century
health show or the 21st century health and wellness studio in Norwell, 392 Washington
Street Norwell, Mass. So wherever you are in Massachusetts, Boston,
we have people coming from out of state sometimes but it is a validated across the board, all
these platforms. If you look at what the future is becoming
in terms of health, we have it at the Zen Den. We do. We absolutely do, and if we don’t have it,
it’s in our business plan. Yeah. So when we talk about the holistic nature
of Zen Den and the services that we offer, we always start with the testing. You have to know what your cells are saying,
what your DNA is saying, what your brain and your neurology are saying, what your gut health
is saying. And if you don’t know those things, those
are the first things that we do is we test those. Because how do you do preventative health
care if you don’t know what you’re preventing against. And, it’s interesting, because there are a
lot of people that are adopted, they really don’t know their DNA. But you may not know that you’re prone to
degenerative disc issues or neurological dysfunctions. And we know that neurological dysfunctions
are just like one of the fastest growing diagnoses in the country. True. So one of the things that I want to talk about
is how we’ve been running this business for two years. And then I go to the Los Angeles and we’ll
talk about Dave Asprey and the Biohacking Upgrade Labs Convention, and what I saw there
and how I reacted to it. But one of the most important things that
I’ve always avoided in my life or even failed to care about, I never really was concerned
about my health, because I was young and healthy to some level. Yeah. But sleep, sleep is so important and I want
to share what I learned, and what I gained, and what I’ve done since April, about my sleep. And it’s pretty interesting too. Sleep is huge everybody. Yeah, it’s so cool, and I’ve never paid attention
to it, and now it’s awesome. So, we’re going to a commercial break and
we’ll be right back at 95.9 WATD, Zen Den Health Talks with Mary and Michael. All right, all right, all right, we’re back. 95-9 WATD with Michael and Mary. So, as I was saying, and I think it was April
6th or 7th I went to Dave Asprey. Dave Asprey is the author of the book called
Game Changers. He was a internet hacker in Silicon Valley
and then he became a hacker of the human biology and he wrote a book called Game Changers,
and it’s what leaders, innovators and Mavericks do to win at life. But one of the verifications on the back of
the book is everyone knows they could be smarter, faster and happier, but they don’t know how
to do it. Right. And they haven’t had time to test all habits
and hack the work again and again, to improve performance. So Dave has really coined the term biohacking,
and he has a business out there called Upgrade Labs, which is the most innovative services,
and products, and methods of health in the world. I talked about this a little bit before on
one of the episodes, but if you want to listen to the audio book, definitely check it out
Dave Asprey Game Changers, or you can follow him on at Dave Asprey. You can follow him at Bulletproof Labs, Upgrade
Labs, and then the one that I really enjoy, and I’m starting to get excited about and
I feel like there’s such a connection between Mary and Dave, and what Mary’s doing is actually
the 40, he has another business out in Seattle called the 40 Years of Zen, and they actually
put you in a cube like the flow tank, and they’re putting sensors on the brain, the
brain waves, the neural pathways and they’re working the muscle of the brain to understand
all types of your connectivities, your messaging, your brain health. And I just feel like the interaction that
you do with the eyesight and the brain, and the vestibular stability, there’s a big connection
between everything about brain health, but we’re actually without still doing the manual,
and still doing these exercises that really tied in and grounded into the body. Right. And the testing that we do is without the
wires, because we’re not doing high tech brainwaves, but what we’re doing is we’re looking at the
function of the human being in front of us, and the way that they read a book. So I’m working with a 11 year old hockey player,
who is really fast on the ice until he’s Puck handling. Yeah, I know a lot of players like that. So, what we tested was his peripheral vision. And underneath his feet, or near his feet,
his peripheral vision is zero. So we’re enhancing his peripheral vision at
his feet. And we’re testing, reassessing all of that. Those are things that everybody knows what
they want to improve. I want to improve my sleep, I want to improve
my Puck handling, I want to be able to read better and retain more. Everybody knows some of the flaws that they
have in their body. Let’s start there and let’s improve those
things. And what you see is you see the brain start
to bloom, because all it needed was a little bit of stimulation. Yeah, I tell my story often, but being able
to strengthen the pelvic floor has allowed everything else to flourish in my opinion,
in terms of exercise, and the work I’m doing with Justin, you met Justin the other day. Yes. So we’ll talk about that in a minute because
I want to circle back with meditation. But so when I went out to LA and I went to
the conference, I was standing in front of unbelievable people. And they were speaking and having all types
of their, what each person really focuses on, the health experts. And I’ll get back to that meditation a minute. But this gentleman, Sean Stevenson, he was
a young guy and he had severe ruptured discs, blown out discs, and he was told that he would
never be able to do anything again and he- Kind of like you. Kind of like me, I think maybe a little bit
worse, but he was saying that … What he said is like I was giving away my power because
I was accepting the diagnosis. Oh, God, that’s like the best thing I’ve ever
heard. I knew you would love that. Yeah, you just gave away your power of when
you let someone put you in a box. Yeah, and you say that. I’ve heard you say that a million times, but
when people tell you like, oh I needed surgery, and I was like, “Okay, well, that just takes
away your power right there. Because you’re in a box, you need surgery,
right?” Preach brother, preach. So, that’s why I resonate with the dude so
bad, and he was awesome. And one of the things he talked about, like
five different ways that we need to maximize our health, and maximize our healing on a
daily basis. But what he said is, if you’re not sleeping,
you’re not healing. Oh, my gosh, the circadian rhythm. Yeah, so I didn’t even know what circadian
rhythm. I want you explain what this circadian rhythm
is, Mary. So every cell, every live living organism
has a 24 hour rhythm. And that rhythm requires sleep and rest. So even plants sleep, animals sleep. And everybody has a 24 hour clock that they’re
on, which is the circadian rhythm. The human being needs eight hours of sleep
in general, some people do it with less and do it with more. But sleep is where you heal. Sleep is where your spine decompresses. Sleep is where your cells regenerate. And if you’re not sleeping, or if you’re really
restless in your sleep, that healing component doesn’t happen. So somebody who has ruptured discs, and they’re
not sleeping well it’s they’re not going to get better. Because those cells regenerate constantly,
our skin sheds and re-groups every seven years. Our cells in our liver are not the same today
as they will be in three years. The human body rebuilds itself all the time. Over and over again. Yeah. So, as of listening to him and talking about
how important sleep was and I never really paid attention to sleep and you look at different
people that are successful, in growing up and most of us are on the belief that hey,
you work hard, you work hard. Don’t ever stop, right? Yeah. Burn the midnight oil, and you’ll be successful,
but I stopped and I’ve done that for years. And even like, when I was talking about sleep
to some somebody, they brought up Dana White, which I know Dana White, I used to box with
him back in the early 90s. And they said that Dana only sleeps four hours
a night and I don’t really … I didn’t know, I’ve never really talked to him about that. But yeah, I started to think about that. I’m like, yeah, that’s about where I’m at
four, maybe five. I went to bed at 11:30 at night and I had
all types of stuff on my brain and I’d be looking at the phone right before the bed
so I got that blue light. Blue light coming right coming right at you. Yeah, coming right at me or the TV. Then I hit the bed, and by the time I get
up it’s only been four and a half hours, five hours. And I’m like, yeah, whatever, just get up
and go and that’s how I’ve lived my life the past 15 years. So when I started listening to Sean and Sean
Stephenson and looking about his book and some of these things, the sleep cycle repeats
and the REM sleep and the deep sleep, and how it’s a … The heart rate slows down and
the brain- Blood pressure-
Does less complicated tasks. Then it says hormones are released and body
makes repairs to bone and skin. You know, blood flow is directed towards muscles,
restoring physical energy. It was just, it’s just so basic stuff, but
we don’t even pay attention to it. And that’s what we’re talking about at the
Zen Den. We’re bringing these, opening our eyes, opening
the community’s eyes to what’s really going to make you live longer, live healthier, prevent
disease. And that’s what the float is for. The reason that we have the float is because
one hour in the float is equal to eight hours of REM sleep. And I don’t know about you. But there are very few nights in a year that
I get a full eight hours where I don’t even move. I’ve had a few, and I feel like a million
bucks after that. One of the other items that he came up with
was fix your gut, that he has in one of his chapters is fix your gut to fix your sleep. And one of the subtitles is, your belly is
driving your brain but who is driving your belly? So all of these things that we see in what
we’re talking about the Zen Den which just became more and more validated at this conference,
it just blew my mind. Yeah, we are so relevant right now is the
best way to put it. Yeah, and not to say that we’re tooting our
own horn, we’re actually we’re just passionate about health, and I’m passionate about what
Mary’s doing. And so we’re together and we’re just trying
to spread that consciousness about health and the education of what’s really out there
and a new way of life. And that’s why we call it a 21st century health
because before you know it, this is going to be the new norm for health, right? Right. The Zen Den. So one of the things that I thought was really
cool, and I’m telling you to get this ring, and I think I told it to Sean Sullivan. And the next time I check in with you, Sean,
I hope to see this ring on your finger. And yet knowing that you’ll be increasing
your sleep, my man. So it’s called the oura ring. And let me spell that for you guys out there. The oura ring is spelled O-U-R-A. And it gives you everything under the sun,
it gives you your sleep, it tells you how much REM sleep, how much deep sleep, how efficient
your sleep is, your timing, what time you went, it tracks everything, just by a ring
on your finger, and it tests your resting heart rate, your readiness, your respiratory
rate, your body temperature, everything under the sun, Mary. And then one of the greatest things that I
like about it, it gives you like, okay, you’re ready for your sleep score, it says 90% sleep
efficiency or your activity score. It gives you all of these things. You just look at it once or twice a day. But one of the best things I really thought
was cool was that after a while, it’s like, “Wow, I got a good night’s sleep.” And so sometimes as humans and people, we
just think like, “Oh, I’m too tired, or I didn’t get a good night’s sleep.” But when you see it in front of you, and it
says, “Hey, you got a good night’s sleep, you did well.” And all of a sudden it’s a mind shift that
you’re like, “Hey, I’m not tired, like I can jump and go,” and so I put more investment
into my sleep and I’ve really never felt better. And I’ve had some stressful times over the
past couple of months. And I have two little babies, two little girls
and more coming, [inaudible 00:22:33] coming. And so I’m going to get that sleep because
I’m going to make it a priority. But I know and I feel great about it. And I know that I feel a lot more energetic
and passionate. So we are going to continue talking about
Zen Den and we’re going to give away a free infusion. And we’ll be back in a moment, right? Yes, absolutely WATD 95.9 Zen Den Health Talks. Here you go. And we’re back Zen Den Health Talks 95.9 Michael
and Mary. There it is the anchorman entrance. So just for you listeners, it’s called Sleep
Smarter, Shawn Stevenson 21 ways essential strategies to sleep your way to a better body,
better health and bigger success. So we were just talking about how I went to
the biohacking upgrade conference and more and more health experts, and leaders, and
thought educators were we’re up on the stage and continually talking about what we’re doing
cellular health, cellular regeneration. And one of the other ideas that … One of
the other rooms that I had entered was about meditation. We’ve talked a little bit about that. And it just goes right in-tune with the sleep. Because once you understand how the brain
slips into different levels of brain state it’s also similar to what happens when you’re
in a meditation or when you’re in a float tank. When you’re in the float tank. And, we really encourage people to come down
and try the float tank or come down and get a concierge appointment with Jeanetta, J-E-A-N-E-T-T-A,
[email protected] and obviously if anybody has any questions for Mary or Michael directly
just say [email protected], or [email protected] and fire off an email and we’ll get you down,
we’ll come down to the Zen Den, set up an appointment and do a concierge walk through,
a tour, or sit down and discuss their health, right Mary? It’s really vital because you’ll feel comfortable
almost when you walk in. There’s a Zen like feeling to Zen Den and
that was the miracle of how we came together because we started talking about it, then
the building became available, and it’s the space is so beautiful and so Zen. So we’re going to talk about other services. Are you still talking about meditation? Yeah, I wanted to talk about meditation for
a minute because there was a woman that I walked into, Agapi Stassinopoulos and she
has a book called Wake Up To The Joy of You, 52 meditations and practices for a calmer,
and happier life. And the other day I brought down my personal
trainer, we’ve been working together for four or five months. I feel great. He does wonders with watching out for you
know, some of the issues that I was concerned about whether I cracked my back again and
things like that. And so his friend is Nicoletta Namaste and
she’s a meditation guru. And so then, Mary and her it was just a cool
little interaction and we have those all the time. We do, yeah. It’s cool. But the meditation we like to do that, and
we’ve done a few evenings of meditation events and people come and then they get to know
the Zen Den and walk through it and tour it and they get a great meditation. Mary’s done it once. We also had some other meditations and I’d
like to have Nico down to do a meditation. She actually ran into new Jackie somehow Jackie
Gorman, who does the- You’re kidding, that’s so coincidental and
awesome. Yeah, it was unbelievable. They were together last week and I think Jackie
did brain integration on her. So it was pretty cool. But Mary does meditation and she’s mentioned
that before, but what I’d liked the conversation that, you know, it’s almost as if we’re all
in the community, and the health is like, all right, one step forward, what do we do? What is this new path of health? Even Mark, the videographer here is like,
“Okay, what do you guys do down there?” And so now he’s going down, and it’s great,
and we’re going to have him talk at the end of the show. But, you and Nico, were like, “Oh, people
are like everybody and even me, I’ve done it. Actually, I dove deep into it, meditation,
but you said what I said and you were like, everybody just is like, “Oh, meditation. What is this? Why am I doing it?” Yeah, and I’m not very good at this. There you go. [inaudible 00:27:02] you guys are talking
about that? Yeah. So I started meditation over 20 years ago,
and I met Deepak Chopra. And he walked by me and he said, “Hello, how
are you?” And I said, “I’m fine.” We talked, I introduced myself. And I said, “You know, I just have to tell
you, I really suck at meditation.” And he said, “We all do.” And it’s like a muscle memory. And you just through every breath, you just
create a small gap. And that small gap is just clarity. And then you go back to your thoughts, and
you go back to your breath. And it’s just practicing, finding those little
gaps of space. Because those gaps of space is when you have
peace in your brain. And it’s so vital to our survival and our
success and our mental health to have those gaps where we’re actually thinking about our
breath, and we’re grateful in those few seconds. Gratitude is everything. You cannot be stressed when you’re grateful. Keep that in mind. Yeah. So we were talking about that, and we were
talking about how it took us some time to get relatively good at it. But I think Nico, what we have in common is
we want to create a community of meditation, because it’s really important to share and
connect with people. And Zen Den is the perfect place for that. So I’m really looking forward to having her
there. Yeah. I’ve talked with different people, even in
my family, but it’s in friends, and they’re like meditation in thinking that they’re giving
me, they’re like, someone said, I’m really intense the other day, and I was like, ‘”Me?” But that was for my first go round I was like,
“I can’t do this.” I keep going to what’s going on over here,
what’s going on over there, what’s going on there? And then it was like,” Well, wait a minute,
when am I going to really give myself 20 minutes to like, just shut everything else off in
the world and just sit there and zone out?” And, then when I started doing that, it just
creates so many so much, you can become so better productive, more productive, better
situated in everything that comes at you. Because you know that you can, it’s just part
of a time. It’s part of a time and it’s so important
to be able to find the grace in those moments when you’re really stressed out and rise above
it just for a second. To look at yourself, and to align your mind,
not your brain, your mind and your heart and your soul. And when you can do that, those are those
sometimes seconds, but then those seconds turned into minutes of grace, where you have
peace of mind. Yeah, the human body wasn’t necessarily created
to be under so much stress. No, I think we have more stress now than when
we were caveman. Right. I really do. I think that we … And the other piece is
we don’t move. So when you have stress and you have these
things, thoughts coming at you, you’re supposed to be moving. You’re supposed to be running from the stress,
you’re supposed to be moving. And we sit there so our adrenals just get
fried. [inaudible 00:30:16]. Yes. Yes, so and there’s another book, Agapi Stassinopoulos
and you check take this book Wake Up To The Joy Of You: 52 Meditations and Practices. And then if you need help come down to the
Zen Den and Mary will give you a guided meditation or take a look on our events page at zenden.com
and you’ll occasionally see a meditation event up there live. So just the last book I really thought was
great was The Way Of The Warrior and it’s an immigration story from Irwin Raphael McManus
and I’ve read it I posted about it on Neighborhood Lines. But just an outside, look at your spirituality,
your connection to a higher power, and take a look at it because it’s an ancient path
to inner peace. And that’s what we all are searching for and
looking for. And that’s what we’re trying to create at
the Zen Den, right Mary? Every day. Oh, and I just have this other book, I just
might have to bring it up. Wow, where did that get in the mix Neighborhood
Lives with Michael Patrick Murphy. I’m plugging myself. But take a look. Educators take a read at this and-
It’s relevant. It’s very relevant with the crazy politics
and all things going back and forth between the different races. But one of the craziest things that I’ve been
looking at and Mary and I we’ll just talk about this for a minute. But I love the fact that, Mary is my business
partner. And we’re totally like opposites of the world,
an Irish American, and Korean American. And, we have certain, we have a good ethnic
group down there at the Zen Den and it’s pretty cool to see. And it’s a magical journey that I wrote the
book right around the time, like a year after we connected and just so much stuff has connected,
I think. Yeah. Well, it just goes to show how much … Well,
you’ve evolved, you know the story is about an evolution of two young men, and their race
differences and how society was treating each of those races. It’s a great read. And it’s important for the youth of America
to be looking at stories like this. Yes, yes, yes. So we are … What are we going to talk about
next here, Mary, we’ve got? Well, we’re talking about the 21st century. Yes. So, we talked about the assessments. The assessments are everything. You need to know if you are suffering from
anxiety or depression have you ever heard of a neurotransmitter test? Because your neurotransmitter test, you can
do it at Zen Den and it will tell you your brain chemistry, it will tell you what your
brain is missing, and what it has too much of. That’s like the only test I haven’t done by
the way. I’ve done every other thing. Right and it’s the tests that I did when I
called my medical professional Dr. Donna Jones, who is at Zen Den. And I told her that I had no focus, that I
was in a fog, and that the sound of my children’s voices was really getting on my nerves. And she laughed and she said, come do a neurotransmitter
test, and I did and the results were fascinating. She looks at the result. She said, “Have you not been eating Asian
food lately?” And I said, “I guess not.” And she said, “Well, that’s all it is. It’s your glutamine your glutamate. You just need to go take L-glutamine.” Long story short, I thought that I suddenly
developed ADD which I didn’t. And by the way, my doctor wanted to put me
on ADD medication. Yeah, I’ve been there. So, I took L-glutamine, which is an amino
acid you get from soy products in Asian foods and I took it for seven days and my clarity
came back, I could read again and I loved my kids again. It was so simple and doctors are putting a
lot of people on medication for depression and anxiety without doing this test. I cannot believe that most of these physicians
who had this access are saying it’s really not relevant. And I’m like it is so relevant to the mental
health of your patients. So neurotransmitter testing, micronutrient
testing, what do you not have enough and what does your body not like when you eat it? Yeah, I’ve been through … I was going to,
I went on ADD medication and I had to get right off it. So, anyways-
The testing is huge. Yeah, the testing-
DNA testing. And Zen Den what I was … Basically when
you were saying that I was just looking at you and I’m like, this is exactly what, when
I left Los Angeles I was like Zen Den has every single thing. Every single thing. Even though we’re usually seven years, five
years behind the West Coast because it’s the Silicon Valley of health and wellness and
fitness out there. You know, Mary as a visionary and as a thought
leader has created with me and together we’ve made this amazing studio and facility, 21st
century health facility and we’re right in line with LA and that’s why we’re here doing
this show so we can educate the community that this is the wave of the future and it
was so confirmed when I went out there and it was so confirmed that we have everything. The only thing that we didn’t have is stem
cells which we are going to bring- We’re bringing in. We’re bringing with Dr. Edgar and what they
didn’t have was what your magical creation- The neurology [crosstalk 00:35:58]
… but yet it’s so in line with what they’re working on it’s not, there’s no one’s going
to be able to do what you do and that’s so innovative and your creation. But the focus on the neurology, the focus
on the brain is very confirming to see that that’s where they’re putting their focus,
right? It’s the fastest area of medicine. Just in medicine and research currently, so
it’s vital that we stay ahead of it. And if we can help you to prevent some of
the DNA that you might have in your cells from expressing themselves, we’ve done our
job. Because we have so many disease states that
we could potentially express. You need to know what those are. So if you can get the DNA test, it is so informative. It’s not to scare you, it is to prevent it. So information is power. That’s right. And we’re going to another commercial break
and it’s Mary and Michael Zen Den Health Talks 95.9 WATD, we’ll see you in a moment. And we’re back, Zen Den Health Talks, Michael
and Mary 95.9 WATD. If you could only see what happens during
the commercial break. It is very, very funny. It is a comic show. Yes, it could be. Definitely a sitcom. Yes, yes, yes. And, Tiffany is writing a book on the journey
of Zen Den. So I’ve been thinking about it. She’s thinking screenplay. Yeah, she’s got some deep content. So you better be right, and those fingers
should be [hardened 00:37:37] with all the things going on down there. So I do want to say based on the last thing
we were just talking about brain health. Zen Den has rescheduled the Max Lugavere event,
I had a great conversation with him. He’s the author of Genius Foods, he is so
cutting edge on what his book has revealed in terms of the foods to eat for brain health,
diet and gene expression, and just maximizing your overall health by the food you eat. He was on the Today Show yesterday morning. Yes, he was. But we are going to have this event. Without a doubt we’re having this event. It’s going to be the biggest health outing
on the south shore or in Boston, in my opinion, and we are going to have some radio coverage,
TV coverage, and some corporate sponsors. That’s going to be pretty exciting. So October 10th, 10/10, Max Lugavere at the
Zen Den, and I am going to have the Alzheimer’s Foundation in Watertown, they’re going to
be involved in it at certain levels. And some people are certainly excited to be
participating in this event. So maybe [crosstalk 00:38:56] to come back
down. Yes, exactly. Do something special here. Very educational in terms of what you should
be eating and how you should prepare it. And it’s simple, everybody. And it’s very, very simple. It’s just what we want to do for the community. We want to educate and let them know what’s
out there so we can live healthier and be healthier. So I’m going to turn it over to Mary about
some services she wanted to talk about, and then we’re actually going to bring in our-
Our favorite videographer, Mark Brennan. We love, Mark he’s awesome. So, Mark is a vet, he is our talented videographer
and he also lives in chronic pain. And so we invited him to Zen Den because we
really wanted … I really want to help him. Everybody who comes in who was in pain, I
really want to help them. So, hi Mark? Hi. How’s it going? It’s very, very good. So tell us about your pain first, what was
going on? So my pains not really isolated to one spot. I have pain in my left knee. Now I got in a car accident last week, so
it’s in my right shoulder, my neck, my lower back. I’ve had physical therapy for years, nothing’s
ever worked. To get rid of the back pain, the spine pain? And the knee pain. The knee pain. With the instability. Okay. Physical therapy, weeks of it felt a lot worse
than leaving Zen Den after one day. I felt so much straighter-
Love it. … So much more stable, and less pain. So what do you think the difference was between
that physical therapy and what you get at Zen Den in the pain clinic? Zen Den integrates everything into one therapy
basically. When I go to the VA, for physical therapy,
it’s just my knee, or it’s just my back, just my leg, just one thing. They’re not looking at the total body. And it’s physical therapist are one of the
smartest groups of practitioners ever. They’re so smart. What happens though, is when you take insurance,
you’re limited to that one joint. And that’s insurance, not the PT. Right. Yeah, and that’s why we want to, at some point,
have the insurance companies take a look at what we’re doing so that they can compensate
it, and we can really help people. But in reality, what we’re doing is we’re
saving insurance companies a lot of money there. Because it’s preventative. And over and over again. I didn’t have to do my surgery that would
have cost a lot of money. And we went to South Shore pain clinic, associated
with the South Shore hospital and it was doctors and nurses sitting there and they were like
… They looked at us, Mary and I presented in front of them, which was great and very
fulfilling and- And validating. … Validating, exactly. That’s the word I’m looking for. The doctor was like, “Wow, you do all that
in a session?” Yeah, and they were all saying, “I wish I
could send all my patients there. But because of the insurance process, it just
depends on who can … We use flex accounts and some other accounts. We do. We do use Flexible Spending and health HSA
as well. So you came in and what did we make you do,
Mark Brennan? The first thing I had to close my eyes … Well,
I opened my eyes, look left, look right, look up, down and then closed my eyes. Look up, look down, look left, look right
and my body it rotated and went around in a little circle. Which is not what’s supposed to happen. Okay. And then I stepped on the ball. And I looked at a … I followed a ball with
my eyes, I tracked it back and forth with my eyes. And that retrained my brain, if I’m correct. Yes, we just plugged in the wires that were
unplugged dude, that’s it. Because they were there before, you had spinal
stability at one point in your life, because you’re an evolved human being, so you’re born
with that. And then today, I went in there, and I felt
great doing that same assessment. Yeah. I felt great. Yeah, it’s a workout. It’s like a therapy, but yet a realignment,
reassessment right Mary? Mm-hmm (affirmative). We were always going to assess that, but we’re
also going to go deeper. And you were there when we were working with
somebody who had a concussion. And we were talking about how she reads and
how her eyes do not track. And then Mark’s like, “I have that problem.” I think that we all, if we just become aware
of some of the things that our eyes are supposed to be doing, in the way that we’re supposed
to be reading and how we’re holding the book, and how that can change our retention, those
were the things we were going over with, Angela, who is a beautiful … I want to say she’s
18 or 19 years old, but can’t focus, can’t concentrate and cannot retain. And she like you said, isn’t reading at her
best. And I told her, “I did not read it my best. And when you do read it your best you’re going
to devour books.” I devoured over 200 books a year. Wow. I devoured seven in the last 10 days. It’s incredible. It’s insane. Yeah, I think I need to go back. So then we did all of the, we plugged in your
neurology. Then what did we do? I laid on the table and I got worked on. Nice. I got worked on. [crosstalk 00:44:35] therapy, yeah. I found a lot of pain that I didn’t know I
had, or stiffness I didn’t know I had. And every now and then I’ll jump off the table
walk around, and it’s incredible. It’s like I aged five years backwards to before
I was in pain. So 15 years ago. I like that, you aged backwards. We have to quote that. Very good. I’ll remember that. There you go, tagline on the podcast, right? It was funny because I was talking to her
earlier. You know, a lot of people like Aubrey, Marcus
and Alberto Versalo, a friend of mine, and a ton of people. There’s a new face app, and it makes you look
old. Did you see that? I just saw that today, yeah. Yeah, I did it myself just to see it was funny. But, it was really interesting to see. But, when I looked at it, somebody sent me
their picture and I said, “All you gotta do is come to Zen Den and you won’t get there.” You can age backwards. You can age backwards. Age backwards, that’s amazing. Because if you’re not investing in your health,
and that is not your currency, you will pay for it through disease in your body, and that
is not … We’ll help you when there’s disease in your body, we’d rather help you to prevent
it is the best way that I can put it when it comes to what we do at Zen Den. Yeah, I mean, I’m no shame, I mean, I’m 45
years old and I honestly even though I’ve always been somewhat athletic, I would have
to say hands down, I am more powerful and stronger now than I think at 35, 34. I wasn’t healthy, I wasn’t eating right and
I wasn’t sleeping. I wasn’t doing the right core exercises, and
now I’m doing it all at Zen and it’s just a way of life. What we’re saying, I was saying today, we
want personal trainers to come check us out, we want owners of gyms, we want other doctors,
we want everybody to come down and check us out because we are there to help the community. We want to keep your membership healthy and
active so they can live their best life and go back to your gyms and get off the bench. 100%. And we want the doctors to know what we’re
doing so that when there’s no results over there, we can take them to another … And
just flip the other coin and see if we can help them. And that’s why we want everybody to come down
and walk through that Zen Den door and see what we’re doing in meetups and meet the family
down at the Zen Den because there’s a lot of great people in there. That’s what we’re trying to do is bring the
best practitioners under one roof to treat and heal you and live your best life. So, stay tuned for Mark’s story because I
think what we’re going to do is you know, he’s a vet, we want to serve a man who served
our country. That’s really, really important to both Michael
and I. And so if you’re a vet come talk to us, please. Yes. We’ll give you discounts off floats, off [trials
00:47:31], off saunas. We want you to be part of the family down
there. We want to get you back to your health. So any veterans, I said that to Mark to Luca,
he’s been in there the boxer, the champ, so and Sean Solomon’s going to come on in a week
or two, he’s going to talk about infusion and how much he loves them. And the family affair of his family and how
all of them use Zen Den. And then you’re going to do a whole show,
we’re going to do a whole show- On brain health. … On concussion, right? Brain health, yeah. So that’s what’s up next. So stay tuned for WATD 95.9 Zen Den Health
Talks with Mary and Michael. Have a great week everybody. Come down [crosstalk 00:48:09] concierge appointments,
Zen Den Health with Jeanetta and email us and stay tuned. And text us if you want to sign up for or
qualify for the free IV, 781-424-0488, we will reach out to the 10th texter. You got it. See you next week. See you next week. Stay healthy.

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